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JamesInRaleigh

 
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"Zardoz Notwax"
Dec-22-05, 10:21 AM (EST)
Have you used this product. It claims to be the, "World's Slipperiest Ski and Snowboard Lube". I got a few samples of this at Steamboat but did not use it. (I was afraid it would cause me to miss the gates on the GS runs) It's suppose to be "100% pure liguid teflon" plus it has "Rustblock" to protect metal edges.

There was a product a few years ago that was a spray, but I didn't think it was very good compared to just waxing skis.

Also have you seen a compact waxing iron anywhere. I've been using a regular iron for the last many years but it takes a lot of room in the boot/ski bag.


 

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Doug

 
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1. "RE: Zardoz Notwax"
Dec-22-05, 10:35 AM (EST)
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It wears off in a run or two, nothing even close to a temperature specific hot wax in terms of performance.


 

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yak

 
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4. "RE: Zardoz Notwax"
Dec-24-05, 08:51 AM (EST)
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LAST EDITED ON Dec-24-05 AT 09:01 AM (EST)
 
Actually it only wears off that fast if you have not yet removed the hydrocarbon wax on the bottom of your ski... you cannot use both this 'wax' and the hydrocarbon based traditional waxes.. you must completely remove the old wax off of the ski with something that will strips it off chemically, not just by scrapping it off..(mmm I just checked the website and now they are using it in a two step waxing method with traditional wax.. interesting.. check out the website.. new to me..)... otherwise it is fairly similar to the wearability of traditional waxes.. which is also quite short by the by...

I have not seen any independent written test reports to contrast and compare the two... the advantage to this wax appears to be the lack of work needed to apply it and the lack of chemical hazard associated with working with it... working with traditional hot wax is considered hazardous unless you wear a respirator or have excellent ventilation.

An independent analysis of the two systems would be interesting to read...

For racing purposes I do not know if anyone has ever used it, but then again the 'mystique' of traditional wax has been both scientifically tested and mythologized at the same time... the latest scientific method I think being used is to physical test a variety of waxing choices on a ski on the snow to be raced the day of the race and then making a choice based on what the waxer thinks conditions on the snow will evolve into by the time the race occurs.. a scientific guess at best .. although most waxers I think use the 'secret' formula guess routine based on years of experience but little scientific documentation.. the secretiveness of the racing waxing community has not helped clarify the issues involved with waxing.


 

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2. "Okay then how about edges"
Dec-22-05, 07:26 PM (EST)
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That what I thought Doug. However it still my be a good product for protecting those metal edges.


 

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Doug

 
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3. "RE: Okay then how about edges"
Dec-23-05, 07:30 PM (EST)
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Why would notwax be good for protecting metal edges?


 

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5. "RE: Okay then how about edges"
Dec-25-05, 03:15 AM (EST)
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I don't know why but that's what it says on the package.


 

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nickitynac

 
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6. "RE: Okay then how about edges"
Feb-09-06, 04:57 PM (EST)
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probably because teflon would repel water.


 

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